Written By: Eldergod Selven
Warning: This article was written without intention of point fingers at anyone in particular, It is based on a true event, but, No names have been divulged, and nothing was meant to point at anyone in particular, I have as far as possible made this a count of my day.
The offense

Among all the weird things going on in Mauritius, I had to expect that one coming, I happened to have been given a speeding ticket whereby I felt I didn’t deserved it.
So I thought I’ll just try instead of “just blindly paying the fine”, why not try to having a chance at a fair trial, since I had a few things i didn’t believe was right about that fine (lack of proper speed limit boards present) . So I asked the policeman to give me a form 96 so as I can have a fair chance at trial.
Fair enough, he gave me that after grumbling a bit.
So being very detailed as I am, noted down every thing, and took some pictures, and returned back to my usual life, until a few months later I got a letter, summoning me to court on some said date.
Le jour J
When I reached the court, I was pretty surprised to see that the judge was very young. I always assumed a criteria of age was attached to that post. I also noticed that she had to shout at people constantly to tell them to speak louder while here was a mike in that courtroom but it was not bloody working.
I really felt bad when a woman who underwent some kind of sexual trauma, had to be shouted at SEVERAL times to narrate the same thing over and over about what the accused did.
Does human psychology ever mean anything to these people? How do you expect people to go and ask for help from the law if the law makes it possible to ridicule you or scare you? Weird Country
The first encounter
Maybe some politeness is needed in our court, but then I realized something, my back was in horrible pain since I was inside this room for a long time already. I held my elbow against the dossier of the bench on which I was sitting, nothing rude, nothing brusque, nothing indecent, just holding elbow on a dossier, as normal as possible, and suddenly she looked at me from above, and said:
She: “Eh ou la kot ou pensE ou etE?”
Me: “Huh, moi? ”
She: “Ou dans ou salon la kisa, kot sa ou etE la?”
I straightened my back and looked at her confused, why was she telling me that? And why would she be talking in creole in the courtroom. So I decided that I better answer
Me: “Mo dans la cour”
She looked pissed off and said : “Leve ou, vinn devant”
I did just that.
She: “Kumsa 1 Facon pou sizE dans lacour sa?”
Me (still confused at the turn of events): Huh, wi, mo ledos ti p fermal.”
She: “B pas mo problem sa, mo amenn 1 sofa pou ou lot cou? Ou pensE gagne droit siz kumsa?”
Me: “DesolE, mo pann trouve okenn mention de la facon correct ki mo bizin assizE dans sa ti notice code of conduct dehor la”
Actually I was indeed following every single rules and regulation that was written on the court door, me being always picky at respecting the detailed rules of any places I am at.
Basic rules to be followed during court proceedings
These are the rules written at the entrance of the court room:
- No talking in Court during proceedings
- Any person ( Accused, Witness, Police Officer, etc) having business in Court MUST be seated INSIDE THE COURT ROOM, and not outside
- Switch off all mobile phones when entering Court premises.
- Mobile phones ringing in Court room will be confiscated and will amount to contempt of court
- Members of the public entering the court room, when proceeding have already started, must do so silently. Disturbance of court proceedings amounts to disrespect to the court, which will be liable to penalty by the magistrate.
- Anyone entering or leaving the court room during proceedings must do so discretely to avoid disturbance. This applies to any member of the public and includes Police Officers, Counsel, Attorney, etc. Unnecessary and unwarranted movements in and out of court will be sanctioned.
- All persons attending Court are requested to check on Notice board in which Court their cases are listed.
- Court wil consider a person ABSENT if at the time he/she does not present himself/herself IMMEDIATELY when his/her name is being called in Court Room. Court will still consider the person absent even if the person is present within the court premises (for example, sitting under a tree or roaming outside the court room) but not physically present in the court room.
- Anyone attending court must be dressed decently – Shorts are not allowed in Court Room.
Back to the story
In the meantime, I had no idea what to do with my hands, so I placed them in my pocket wondering why is this human wearing black coat shouting at me and why was she sounding so violent to me…
She: “ Ici ou dans MO lacour, et ou pas gagne droit siz kumsa, Mo pou donne ou 1 lamann Rs10,000 et 5 ans prison, et tir ou lamains dans ou poche kan ou koz ar moi”
Well, I thought that if she wanted to give me Rs.10,000 fine and 5 years of prison, I can’t really do anything about it, she is the judge, but why would she do that, I was a bit confused by this whole situation, since I have been like a total law abiding citizen when i got in why me???
So I just shrugged my shoulders and looked at her wondering.
She: “al dehors depi mo lacour”
I walked outside and a policeman told me that I will be called when It is my turn.
Before lunch time
Then around 11:48, I saw everyone going out of the court, i was wondering what is happening, i try to look inside the court, but she told me not to get in I couldn’t get in, but from outside when the door opened I saw that the room was empty, where did everyone go? Why wasn’t I informed of anything, what is happening? Since i was already kicked out of the courtroom and no one was inside and there was no informative board set on the door about any resume time, I thought i’ll just quickly grab something to eat, because well, I am a human being after all, and I have bodily needs, and i figured it must be lunch time for these other humans also. I met someone and asked when is the court resuming, he said 12:30, so I went to grab something to eat.
After lunch
12:27: I came back to the courtroom, people were saying that she was asking for you, I got there in time, and then my name was called:
She *angry tone*: “Kot ou ti etE?”
Me:”Mo ti al ManzE”
She:” Redir sa 1 coutt?”
Me: “DesolE mo ti al manzE, mo in tann dir la cour p resume 12:30”
Now she looked really pissed off. Why should someone be pissed off if I am speaking the truth? What are we, in this society, raged at if we speak the truth? Why??? Should I have said that I had an urgent need to go to the toilet or something like that? I can’t lie why should I lie or be expected to lie????
In a sacred courtroom also no way!
The warrant
In a very pissed off tone, she added:
“Eh ou la kot ou pensE ou eté la? Mo pa travail ar ou moi, warrant fini sorti lor ou nom, et ou pou gagne 5 ans for contempt to court et Rs.10,000 lamman”
Now I thought this is getting a bit too serious, this human who gets paid by tax payers, and who is a government servant with immunity is saying that she doesn’t work for the common people, why would she say that? The reasoning behind this really got me confused, I kept thinking, where is the logic, I must be missing something, so I decided to reply to her questions before she starts adding more years of jail time on me, and I decide to express myself in English then as I believe it would be easier instead of me using dual language:
My apology to the judge
So with a wandering gaze I said:
“Hmm, my deepest apologies if it seems I may have in some way infringed any rules set by this court, but it seems that I am being prejudiced about something I currently do not even have any clue of. My apologies again if my seating position was incorrect, as I mentioned earlier, I had a back pain, and I remembered never seeing any points mentioning seating position outside in the rules of that courtroom. Also to note, you told me earlier to GET OUT OF YOUR COURTROOM, and I did just that, everyone went out for lunch, I was the forgotten man outside the courtroom standing for hours and who no one felt it was good to inform me that lunch was happening between which and which time and why everyone left the courtroom. I have not in anyway intended to be of any problem here, I came to court to find help and get a fair trial”
She talked about something in such a violent tone that I didn’t even hear her question
Me: “I’m sorry I didn’t hear properly, can you repeat that.”
She: “Eh ou la, tro c’est tro, mo pa pou tirr sa warrant la vue ki ou pas ti present lerr in apell ou, Ou comprend ki lapolice pou ferme ou asterr la em”
Well I thought, she is the judge, she just made a statement and didn’t ask me a question, so I am to say yes I understand here or shrug to show that I understand, so I shrugged and stared at her wondering what is so wrong in that human why such violence in her words. Also, I sincerely didn’t hear what she said earlier that’s why I asked her to repeat (note that I did repeat when she asked me earlier on something she didn’t hear or understand properly.)
But then she just decided for some weird reasons to cancel the warrant and gave me another date to come to the court (grateful to that actually 🙂 ), and while i was walking to go
She : ”Let’s hope next time you come, you don’t end up in my courtroom, I won’t be so lenient”
I felt my fair trial chances slimming down that moment:
- Was that human being warning me that she would actually be even more negative to me the next time?
- Was that really a warning that I might not get a fair trial, will it be filled with less fact and more emotions next time?
I fear that, I always believed people can be capable of removing emotions aside and keep themselves subject focused, but maybe it is not for everyone.
And as a final advice I was told
She : ”Mr. xxxxx you are an educated man, act like one, certain actions I can let if it was done by someone who was not educated, but I simply will not tolerate such answers from you.”
The unanswered questions
Why did she said that to me, I always thought everyone whether educated or not are all equal in a court of law. Why is it because I am educated,
- I don’t have the right to reply with the truth?
- I can’t hold my elbow on a dossier because of back pain?
- I can’t eat?
Why why why, all these questions kept popping in my mind as I walked out of that courtroom. Did I miss something fundamental about our society, am I supposed to live a lie and never reply with the truth? Do I have to teach my children to lie?
I left the courtroom yes, but it somewhat made me change a bit, our human society used to be that of wild men waging war to see who is right, then we became more civilized and decided to make group decisions about who is right or not.
Then we started defining rules and decided to pay a portion of our taxes to some people who have learned those rules well and who are known to have a fine judgement to do these judgement for the society, and they shall be the highest form of “who is right or not”, but then, can we really know when there’s emotions in it or not?
No one can do anything, that’s just then I realized, yes, we are in Mauritius, we can only bow down and either be liars or well just be silent, as truly, if someone with power wants it, she can do whatever she wants it is up to them, there’s no real form of editing that. Forever it goes on it seems. Maybe as someone “illiterate” about matters of law I don’t get to know, and these facts will just remain hidden.
I will never understand this, but I only answered what I was asked honestly, and I was shouted at by someone who is supposed to be neutral, not so emotional.
Anyway, it is not my job to JUDGE, I just relate what happened like any honest citizen.
Really, I lost faith in the law the moment i saw a judge acting like this. 😦 I feel that my tax money is being wasted more and more now 😦
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Man, I guess do understand when you said this. It feels so frustrating when we see so many abuse today and we cannot do anything about.
Well one thing I really appreciate in this scenario is that you kept your calm and you were still respectful towards the Magistrate. Well not because of fear I hope. 🙂
Only if each and every person would have performed his/her duty with full integrity.
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Kan mo p lir sa lartik la mo p pense un sel zafer: Sa macrel la mo coir ti high on PMS sa jour la. Lin bez so criz Talia dechirer are toi Selven. Beze.
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hmm 1 ta dimoune in dir sa. Enfin, mo pa envi al dir tou sa conclusion la, mais un peu politess dans la cour et moins d’arrogance ti pou apprecier
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The English have surely landed! 😀
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Nins DechirE* :v
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So dife Ti fort ca lhr la.malchance lor toi.
Ene lot jour to pou re alle la cour (re perdi Demi journee)
Humm to pu plaide non coupable.
Li pu dire toi revini avec to avoca ene lot fois
To pran ene Avoca, Li built up to case ( to paye Li)
To re vine la cour(re perdi letps)
Si temoins Ou la police Ou to Avoca pas present Ou libre case re renvoyer
Aller Vini aller Vini
Au final to pu perdi to case, a moins Li to Avoca in built ene case solide
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Well, i want to prove that a single individual can do something to claim his innocence in this country without any use of money and power. Let us see how this can go on.
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ti speed to ti p faire ? et ki ti speed limit ? ki lendroit ca ?
faudais meme dossier solide meme pu to win the case.
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I’ll figure that one out. IT is not about winning like i said, I just wanted a fair trial with whatever i have, i don’t really mind on losing or not, as long as it is a fair trial.
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You did well. I hope the judge see’s this article and have some regret about her attitude.
You are brave enough to say all these out loud. I wonder how many people were bullied like this and somehow ‘forced’ to say thing to ‘please’ the judge, who is clearly proud of her status as an ‘untouchable’.
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I felt really sad that way she shouted at that poor woman, forcing her to describe what happened to her in front of her aggressor several times and loudly.
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I think the judge should be sued…seriously..i think she should!!!
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“I hope the judge see’s this article and have some regret about her attitude.”
Hah!! Keep hoping my friend! From experience, and from reading press excerpts about how cases are handled, I find that becoming judge is not on experience / maturity / composure / even-handedness, but rather on ego. The more frustrated they are when they see what hey could have earned in the private sector, the more severe they become. Even if this is only my perception, even lawyers themselves know how to act and have to adapt their demeanour and arguing style depending on who is judging their case.
Now transpose this in football: you adapt your playing style depending on the referee…?
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I don’t know whether to lol or be angry at that ‘stupidly’ arrogant judge. Seriously man, you should tell her to go at home and get some sleep of get f*%^ for she lacks some sex in her dull life… pfff…. you see the problem is some people think they are above others through law, money and skin colour…i think it’s high time it changes!!! Had you beed sentenced to jail or a fine, i would be in the streets fighting for you 😉
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Thanks for the encouragement. I guess whenever there’s such high power given and such immunity given, they tend to abuse it. It is a pity, i used to believe so much in the law.
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Lack of sex usually results in frustration/anger.
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Speaking from experience…?
🙂
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This brings us back to the previous conversation we were having, Selven. You see what happens to the ego of people on power; when they start to believe they are not answerable in anyway. I’m sure if that person reads this article she will shiver with the thought that this blog isn’t her courtroom and she won’t be able to order someone as it pleases her.
People in power, like this judge or others won’t realize that they’re servants to common man unless an effective means of monitor watches on them & takes actions. Someone/something not in control of the authority but the common man.
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but still, i wouldn’t want such person to be deprived of any privacy, everyone just needs to be treated as equal. 😦 where will we go if we can’t treat each other like equal? to monarchy, and mini monarchy? In the end, there are street thugs, political thugs, and legal thugs, and where does the common man lies then?
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Magistrate sa pa juge
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Sorry, mo pa konn bann terme legal… Thanks for clearing that up.
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Selven, I can explain what happened -> She was PMS-ing.
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ouch.
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I salute you for speaking out. Many people suffer the same fate and let go.
Next time have a hidden camera on you to document abuse of power and authority, especially when dealing with the police, customs, court and to later broadcast on web.
With a video recording of the event you will have solid proof to fight your case later.
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The thing is, they wrote “turn off your mobile phone inside”, i just tried to follow all their rules, and I get thrown out of the court because “madam pensE ki facon mo p assizE pas korek”. et lor la, mo ledos ki p fermal et mo pa ti meme assiz 1 movE facon!”
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This is not evidence my fren
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I know, I barely just spoke an event that happened in a court, how many people goes through that, am pretty sure a lot. This is just informing people. Evidence, the number of people present inside there, including a few more people i knew who were outside listening along. But am not making this a big issue, People just need to be informed about such things, and i had some questions as to how we reached a situations where arrogance primes more than being neutral?
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It is first hand evidence. Bringing in a camera or recording device would amount to contempt of court.
On another note, a lot of (young) practitioners ask themselves whether sitting on a chair somehow entitles certain mags to forget the rules of common courtesy. Donning a gown, collar and bands doesn’t entitle a person to act like a pompous ass, never mind sitting on a glorified wooden chair…and hearing “my court” always makes me cringe. But in the end, we just make do with whoever we’re appearing before..and their erm…moods.
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the one thing that u shouldve done was to report the judge..our legal system provides for such events and such behaviours are most definitely not allowed! its not right to define the legal system based on one individual who thinks way too much of herself..sure the system has flaws; like any other systems for that matter..It actually IS your job to judge..the legal system is for the people and judges arent allowed to abuse their power..she was acting against her duties and most importantly the law and she should have been reported so that she doesnt act like that with someone else..
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Well, i am a common man, infact, If i can get enough information, i get to act based on that, but unfortunately, like many Mauritian, I can’t see any of the “what to do in case of” situations. I am generally well suited at getting information, but in such a case, this is into very finer details of our legal system, which means, i have not that much knowledge or information, so in the end, if i am a poor man, I woiuld have no way of knowing any of this, I guess this state suffers from this a lot, “what to do when something happens” is the big problem, no one knows what to do exactly.
Hmm I think if someone in the legal domain helps me brings such information to the people, we might actually work a pretty framework to let people know what to do in what situation. I am willing to spend my free time working on such a project.
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I don’t even know what to say…
So what we have here is a fiefdom governed by the whims & mood swings of a select few. Dare to question them & have ‘a contempt of court’ thrown at you.
No wonder the common man cannot expect the full impartiality & fairness of a court of justice, when such abuse of power is taking place at every echelon of society.
Banana republic indeed.
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They are drunk on power (remember varma case?). You can’t really say anything to them cuz they’ll just slap u with contempt of court, which is more hassle than its worth. As for this case, how can this magistrate give lessons on behaviour when her own is so disrespectful? Isn’t she educated? This country is goin to the dogs…
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I’m not surprised, maybe because I’ve had my fair share of experience with the frustration you go through in Mauritius. Someone mentioned recording the whole thing as evidence but I’ll tell you something, at the end of the day, the outcome will always be what those who are in power want. I’ve had a police officer tell me he cannot look at the video camera in a shop for the evidence I’m talking about because it’s private property. So take your own conclusions.
Don’t think people who say “Yes Sir” to the bosses are cowards, they may be wiser as it saves them the stress. Your fine would have been Rs500 but if you put a cost on the time spent and the frustration you’re going through, it’s a lot more than that. I’m not saying you should succumb to the whims of those in power but you need to choose your battles carefully…
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Ena bezer ladans ^^ pfft..does not quite surprise me tho.. i know in some quarters ..or many quarters things are absurdly bad!
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Micro c’est pou record, pas pou tander.
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Im not blaming anyone mais mo done fam la raison kelke part.
Ler to guet sa ban figir sale ki vine la cour la ek croire lacaz mama sa, bisin agir kumsa em.
Surtu sa la cour rose hill la et to sa ban figir faubourg la. Pa cozer papa o
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l also experienced that at court when i could nt hear my name….
and they treated me badly
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Would it be right to ask for the name of that judge?
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Unfortunately, I don’t think that my guest writer will be willing to share this. Even I do not know her name or in which court all this happened.
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Let’s respect her privacy. I won’t stoop down to her level if she can goes to a total lack of respect I won’t.
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That judge or magistrate did not show the manners she demanded of you. That “morale on education” that she threw your way while you were leaving the courtroom was highly ironic because she has the highest level of education yet she was the one who showed unsolicited aggression towards you in the 1st place. She was clearly acting like a bully. This whole story brings to my mind the popular catchphrase: “Who’s watching the watchers”.
However, on another note, I think it’s not correct to associate her bellicoseness to PMS or to her sexual activities or lack thereof. Otherwise it would mean that women cannot hold authoritative positions. And that is most certainly not the case. The problem was her attitude and not her gender. I know I may be digressing from the main subject here but I hear/read too many misogynistic comments in forums and on radio everyday.
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While |I agree on what you said, I think that most people here are specifically targetting her (and not the whole female gender) with these kind of comments to intentionally manifest their unhappiness and surprise about how she treated our guest writer.
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Excellent reporting and reminded me of a similar experience i had in court. Our Justice system used to be a respected institution, but it seems to have fallen prey to the general abuse of power prevalent in the country right now.
It seems that they want the common citizen to act like sheep.
The question is will we let them?
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Do we have a choice?
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Revolution!!! XD
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I agree with you saying “abuse of power prevalent in the country right now”, which is truly what is leading to these types of happenings. Our leaders (people elected by the general public and paid from our tax contributions) act as if they are doing us a favor by doing their job. Should it not be the other way round? Should they not be grateful that they have been chosen to represent us and work in the interest of the general public and not their own?
Do we have a choice?
Yes we do.. We Mauritians a too passive and would not go out for road and other sorts of manifestations which is why we have been name “le peuple admirable” by one of them. I think its high time to go out there and make our voices heard. OR otherwise we can wait for the next election to vote for either our current leaders or our previous leaders. We always have a choice..either be it the easy way or the hard way…we always have a choice
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“I held my elbow against the dossier of the bench on which I was sitting”
Joke aside, if you want to be considered postively by these straight-up people, you should really learn some etiquette on demeanour, no only in court, but also in “civilised” society in general. You were really lucky that you were not also chewing on a gum, wearing t-shirt+jeans, crossed legs, etc… Else, you would probably be picking up the soap from a cell lavatory… 🙂
Probably “nothing rude, nothing brusque, nothing indecent,” for you, but in formal settings, these are viewed as a lack of education. I learned all of these the hard way, and if you want to avert such “trauma” next time, just prepare yourself.
About the ” “ Ici ou dans MO lacour (…)”
Man, that’s HER court, not even divine powers can do anything about that – she’s the creator and destructor, the only potent and omipotent force in that galaxy of her’s: for god’s sake, obey! 🙂 Else, prepare to ramasse-savon…
A friendly advice: get the services of a legal adviser before appearing. I did just what you did (trying to defend myself because I was wrongly accused of an imaginary traffic offense) some months ago, and got my ass whipped. Tournn zoreiy, mo pa pou ré-ésséyé enkor, mém si mo enkor en rézon.
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Like i said, I just barely held my hand on the dossier to held my
back pain. Never was there any intention of malice in doing so. Infact i
even wore formal clothes for that day.
If
she sees that as something someone with lack of education does, she
still does not have the right to use that as a form of prejudice against
me, what if i was really uneducated, i would have ended up wrongly
replying her and in jail, is that really called “fair trial” ?
I
do understand it is her court, that is why i wrote this article, our
system doesn’t prevent power abuse in such a situation, hopefully so as
people can constructively find ways to fix certain things, I wonder why
we can’t have cameras in court for public hearing.
Infact,
All she could have said was “Monsieur ou kapav assiz ou bien”, and not
an impolite way of escalating things right after the other, she just was
arrogant, violent, and just started chaining words after words, and
then asked me questions. If i am asked “where i am “, i will reply, “in a
court room”, if i am asked “is this a proper way to sit?” in my little
scientific mind, lots of thoughts rush in “define proper? what is so
wrong in that? what did i do wrong? why is she doing like that?”, so
yes, i would reply, “hmm yes my back is paining” since actually my back
was paining and it logically makes sense to hold on to something.
The
sad thing is, both of us would not have had a bad day if she just told
me to sit like the rest, in a civilized way because humans to humans
conversation do not involve shouting and warnings on the first lines
itself :s.
Luckily am a person with an extreme sense of calmness
and respect, I never tried to go out of the boundary of politeness,
otherwise it is true, 😀 i would have been picking up the soap!
The
thing is, i feel that they want you to “lie” and say things that will
please them and sound like we are begging them, instead of speaking “the
truth”, I always assumed that the law is about speaking the truth, and
then they will just see if whatever was said and mentioned with proof
matches some form of rules that is defined somewhere.
Oh well,
thanks to this magistrate, I have lost all form of faith in the law, and
I wonder how many people out there exist who do not have the calmness
that i have who such thing can be so extreme to the point of breaking
their faith to the point of forging criminals out of normal people.
Because in some sense losing faith in law means, like an atheist who
doesn’t believe in god, would perform what he thinks is good instead of
trusting what some “higher power thinks is good”, and this actually i
believe turns people into criminals. So does such system affects people
in such sense, maybe some psy studies should be done on that, or even we
should start collecting stats about people who have higher counts of
criminal offenses, what really triggers them?
Ohh
well sorry for the long type, i just got lost in my own thoughts
wondering where the hell are humans going towards if we can’t keep
emotions out of judgments.
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“say things that will please them and sound like we are begging them”
Exaaaaactément… Pa séiy konpran, sa-mem (tou) ki férr zott ego gagn
enn orgasmbon sa…“sorry for the long type”
No, don’t be: at least we now know that there is actually a human being behind the
shotgunbalistic missile-type comments of the Selven we normally are accustomed to… 🙂LikeLike
dude. you should phone topfm and go on “korek pa korek” and then explain what happened there. People will know how the system is damn biased and a young judge is acting so immature. She looks frustrated the way you have described. As for the things you were told regarding the posture you took, this is not acceptable at all.
In addition, using her “authority” to put you to jail is complete blackmailing… This is where justice is failing and raises the question “Is our justice system trustworthy?” Having a young judge who keeps on shouting and asking a rape/molested victim to repeat her trauma again and again.
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Well, taking into account the word “young” and “immature”, it makes me wonder. Clearly, how can someone who has no way of talking be given such a responsibility? Since she is young, it means that maybe she does not have that much experience. Agree she has got the academic qualifications. But does this define everything?
In my opinion it is not just a piece of paper that is going to determine how good you are. It is rather the experience and the practice. I ask myself how can she become a magistrate like that? I would really like to know her career path.
Even if you did something which she finds inappropriate, what I feel is that she can first calmly tell you or give u a verbal warning. Or tell you politely (or at least with a certain calmness) that you wait for your turn outside if u are not comfortable in the room. Being harsh is the last option.
This is the way I feel a Magistrate should have acted. There is a certain code of conduct even for a Magistrate.
In the police force there are laws where the police has no right to raise their “matraque” on criminals without any reason. I also heard that even if the person becomes violent, the policeman has got no right to hit him until he gets the orders from a higher authority to do so. So how can a magistrate behave like that in a court house? Li li pas supposer respecter ça maison de justice la li? Li li pas supposer ena ene code of conduct li? :S
Weird world we are living in. Sad though 😦
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Eh I know. What is even more depressing is that it’s a vicious cycle, it’s never going to end, and bullies like her outnumber the good sensible people in almost all fields that involve power.
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Amen.
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Thing is they’ve got immunity and are allowed to do anything, true in certain cases it is important, because their life also because of the nature of their job is at risk, suaully i guess it is a position of trust, but when they start to abuse the power, it is quite a sad thing for both the democracy and hope that people entrust in them.
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I felt really heartbroken while reading this to be honest… </3 I'm out of words
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hi
Yashvin…i guess your name is Yashvin. Someday i will write my
experience in court room of mauritius and post it. I been to court 8
TIMES for a piece of paper called protection order to make it permanent.
The permanent one lasted only 1 MONTH
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You guessed it right 😉
You are the most welcomed!
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Speeding ticket la kine arriver btw ?
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pretty sure all of my comments won’t be published but yeah, the guy is a complete moron and everyone who thinks that the magistrate is the one to blame in this story are complete morons too 🙂
I dare you to publish both of my comments 🙂
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Published.
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Right, this guy is a moron for letting us know his ordeal. By the way, as civilized human beings, maybe it’s about time that we stop trying to expect what we want from everyone, this actually is called decency, not shouting at someone who just happens to be sitting ? Seriously how can you people even justify this ? It’s beyond ludicrous, it’s actually laughable that authority figures like her demand the highest level of respect whilst not having a modicum of it for others. Equality is a myth in Mauritius.
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Perhaps you know better than the JCPC who in 2012 condemned the attitude of a certain judge of the commercial division and quashed the judgment for bias. My darling, I DARE you to appear before that J or a certain former family judge. THEN you tell me whether their attitude is warranted.
Sadly this story is extremely hilarious, sad….and real.
And some advice to you, my future learned friend.
1. Your purported “years of working at a law firm” have gone to dust because the first rule is to always read everything under your nose and have the full facts before forming an opinion.
2. Learn how to write English and use proper syntax and grammar.
Or perhaps you should stick to litigation. That’s where all the hot air is.
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From your personal experience, perhaps you can explain the behavior of the magistrate / judge?
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I just read the rest of the comments.
2) Look, forget about the fact that you are in a courtroom… You are in a formal meeting with your CEO/CFO and stuff. You just can’t sit however you want. There is a proper etiquette to respect.
1)People who think that magistrate think that they should be treated like royalties, well maybe they should not be treated like royalties but don’t forget that when the president of the republic is not in the country and the vice-president is not here also, it is the judiciary who runs the country (like it was the case some months ago when Matadeen was running the country)
3) You can’t talk to someone with hands in your pocket. PERIOD !
4) Speakers aren’t here to make what you say sound louder but just to record for later use.
5) you can tell the truth but just don’t be insolent about it, the way he replied
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Matadeen was running the country ? Where did you read that ? with 1pm and 3vpms..!! quite strange ! Please give me a link for reference.. sounds unbelievable because not a single mauritian gave him any power to do so !
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I think that Ranoo is right in here. Matadeen did put himself in those shoes of the president just some time ago.
Link : http://www.orange.mu/kinews/dossiers/societe/346317/le-spj-matadeen-president-par-interim.html
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Well, i misread,.. he indeed stated that the judiciary replaces the president.. but the president does not actually run the country.. in Mauritius it is the Government and by extension the Prime Minister who does so. 🙂 my humble thought
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In a republic, its the President who is at the highest position. That’s what he meant.
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Drunk on power, and worse than a school-yard bully.
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li pareil partou sa.. kot ena autoritE, ena abus. ene lapolice cwar li ena raison, zamai to pa pou cav fer li sanz lidee. dan morice, tou pass par backing. alor tant ki to pa ggn dimoune pou coz ek so superieur, zamai to pou cav fer li trouv raison. apres si, mem si mo ene fam, mo pa cav pa accepter laveritE, c ki kan certaines fam ggn pouvoir, li senti li “pli mari ki so mari” en kelke sorte.. kot li rod prouver ki fam meilleur ki zom etc etc.. bien sur ena boucou fam garde zot integritE mem kan zot ggn pouvoir. ban fam ki mo p dir la c surtou banne ki ena pouvoir pou affecter banne changements.. par exemple lapolice, avoca, juge, deputE, ministre.. mo esperer ki kan vraiem fam koumence ggn gender equality, zot lattitude pou sanzer.
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So years of working in a law firm in Mauritius still haven’t made you learn ONE THING.
Ah les gens!
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If I were you Yashvin, I would call up Defi Media – since they steal your pictures – and ask them to publish your article. Let the judge know that respect is earned. I would’ve flipped! I mean, nobody talk to me like that! Nobody! I’m so vexed on your behalf…
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To croire bisin don dithe ban criminel ki vine la cour la ou criye r zot?
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My comment is related to this particular case. The judge’s rude behaviour was unwarranted. So you reckon a judge has the right to be nasty to someone before the person stands for trial?!
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What is even worst is that several persons witnessed or went through similar cases, including the mentioned situation of rape cases.
Btw, this is a guest post written by a friend. Not my personal experience (fortunately).
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Yes. I missed the first line for some reason. Anyway, the author of this article hasn’t done anything wrong IMHO.
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Thanks for sharing ! It’s sad to know that the law is in the hands of such pathetic human beings in this country.
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Man, dimoune meme kalité pu protez so kaliT meme, si to meme bato ek to p senti tw vizer. Bein, deal with it 🙂
Come in the IT field, we’ll show you how we handle law issues 😉
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I have also encountered such awful situations a countless number of times, I somewhat believe that the majority of the population in Mauritius tend to live in a statuswise manner. She thinks she can do whatever she wants because of the chair she is in, saem ki ariV kan to pren n ti dimoun ki nanier a foot, to done li pouvoir, li penC pli mari ki li pena!! It is sad that practically everywhere in Mauritius, the siuation is as such! But I will encourage people not to give in to such atrocities anymore, you should know your rights and fight for them! However there is so little you can expect from the authorities nowadays. Apre si gouvernment la mem dan bez, c li ki suposer ena n control lor so ban fonctionnaire, mais non ena n laiC aler ki p plis en pirer.
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1st, it’s not the judge’s job to ask you to follow the rules (sit properly). It is the job of a court Usher. The Usher has to warn you, and if not obeyed, he/she can report you to the judge. Judges with immunity can literally do anything in this country. They are feared even by our most ferocious lawyers and barristers.
I have witnessed a lot of cases as a citizen and I can say that Judges do cast their verdicts based on their emotional states. In short, people will never face a fair trial in court. There are always loops. The higher bidder will will at most times.
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proud that many of you is interested in this particular case but everyday life how many people are being treated like this and who cares . no action at all only taking and complaining this is life . laws is only for
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Thanks for your comment.
We are unfortunately in the heart of their den. Helpless while trying to get justice.
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Thanks very much for the comment.
I wanted to express my apologies for the ultra late approval of your comment. It remained in the pending comments list :s
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Please report the matter to the Chief Justice!
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Good luck man, you were very calm indeed despite the difficult and strange situation! it is fustrating ki dan en lacour li dificil pu dimun gagn en bon ek fair judgement.
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The more i learn about people, the more i love my dog – Mark Twain
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man .. pfff.. dnt know what to say.. I think that well, it would be better to avoid looking for anything which is “fair” in a banana republic ! The best thing to do is to take a lawyer and see what can be done against that magistrate because clearly she acted in a very uncivilized manner and that cannot be tolerated.. but again this is a banana republic so i would lay little hope on getting any positive things out of it. pfff… i still think we, as youngsters, and the future of this banana nation should do something about it..
getting into politics to change things, does not seem to be that bad of an idea in the end ! does it ?
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http://www.defimedia.info/defi-quotidien/dq-actualites/item/39282-en-cour-tenue-correcte-exigee.html
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Thanks for the link 😉
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Very interesting your TRUE story yash. It’s so SAD. Then, what kind of
society do we expect to HAVE in MAuritius with the kind of persons who
are supposed to lead by example, and above all in a court of law!! OMG.
When the people who are in charge of the systems fail, then all the
systems fail. And the country is in danger. L’ile Maurice, C’est un
plaisir!!! LOL. Yash, no one is above the LAW remember this all the
times. You have a strong CASE here man!!! Trust me. What you experienced
is simply UNACCEPTABLE dans un pays de droit et de justice. Take care
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Indeed.
(Note: This is a guest post – The story was submitted by a friend)
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I know these posts are made to generate comments against the system and bla bla bla and say this guy’s rights were violated or something like that! But let’s look at the other side:
1. You cannot be given a speeding ticket and NOT deserve it. If you are given a speeding ticket it means you were speeding, end of the story.
2. This is a strict liability offence, there’s no discussion or argument to be made. Yes, you should “just blindly pay your fine” and stop wasting the Court’s time.
3. It’s people like this guy who waste the Court and a Magistrate’s time and over-crowd the thing.
4. Yes there are rules, if you are an accused in a court-room you definitely SHOULD NOT lean your elbow against a dossier nor shout back at the Magistrate even if she is a young woman.
5. Be happy not to have been jailed for Contempt of Court. Be very very happy!!
6. The guy is indeed lucky; a Court room is not a Secondary school classroom. If you are told off you should be VERY AFRAID indeed, not just shrug off.
So, here we are:
“I don’t have the right to reply with the truth?” – NO! NOT WHEN IT’S NOT PROPER FOR YOU TO TALK.
“I can’t hold my elbow on a dossier because of back pain?” – DEFINITELY NOT!
“I can’t eat?” – NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF COURT PROCEEDINGS!
Finally, back to my first point, THIS IS A STRICT LIABILITY OFFENCE!!! You aren’t meant to be judged with a jury and fanfare like in movies and think you can “claim your innocence”.
Next time, pay your fine blindly like everybody else… OR… DRIVE WITHIN SPEED LIMITS!!
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The same thing happened to me once in court. I never dared to talk about it. I just went home and cried. I am glad to see that someone has got enough courage not to accept such a thing and to talk about it.
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Same thing kinda happened to me, I got a fine for smoking in “public”, when it was not in public, only because part of a roof of a shopping mall was covering my head (it was 8-9 in the morning).
I got several calls from the police station that same day, but I missed them and when I called back, they told me no ones knows who wanted to talk to me.
Two months later, I get a “letter” from the police force, saying I had smoked at a bus station (when I was actually to the side of a building next to the bus station when I was fined).
Now, I can only pay (whatever amount they’ll give to me), though it is totally bullshit. Trying to fight my case would seem so futile and a waste of time, you just have to deal with it with the police force here.
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So long as the judges and mags are human beings, no matter how many and what safeguards exist, the judiciary will always remain flawed….unless you decide to put robots instead. For the very few (yes they do exist!) that try to maintain the symbolism and uphold the values that the institutions represent, unfortunately the barrel is full of (very) moody apples.
It’s not my intention to throw mud at anyone but this is merely reality. Here’s the judgement that I was talking about: http://www.jcpc.gov.uk/decided-cases/docs/JCPC_2011_0027_Judgment.pdf at paragraphs 36 and following. This is only a fragment of what we practising barristers also have to face on a daily basis and when you’re not quite senior yet, some (frustrated? egocentric? both?) mags and judges get a special kick at humiliating you in front of your peers and clients. Definitely not cool.
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In your case, you have reason out the truth and that was the cause of her mental disturbance because she was not expecting that. Just imagine a humble and simple citizen scary at the mere thought of a court room and being addressed like that by civil servants to citizens of this country earning their high salaries from the tax payers money. Don’t they realise that they owe the common citizen and tax payers some respect and be thankful to us for their living? On top its an ABUSE of their position , authority as guardians of the laws. Shame on them!!
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Some food for thought: http://www.defimedia.info/defi-quotidien/dq-actualites/item/39282-en-cour-tenue-correcte-exigee.html
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Yeah, someone shared this link earlier. Thanks!
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Only Selven can reply to you.
btw, sorry for ultra late approval of your comment. It remained in the pending comments list :s
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Abe so la cour la. li aplik la loi ki li envi. malerezman
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