Self-proclaimed as the protector of the hindu community of the island, a group of people has been causing a lot of disturbance for years. Officially, they are for non-violence but in real life, they tend to do things differently, adopting the thugs-attitude. And of course, it is the usual speech : “Pas nou sa!”
Known to be very close to the prime minister Navin Ramgoolam, they are among those untouched people. Even authorities cannot reach them. You will never hear good things about them. They are always fighting on the front line for their selfish objectives while using the name of the hindu community.
But in fact, no one really wants them nor does anyone give them any damn importance. Authorities fear to interfere with these organisations. Did you ever see them? Scary! Writing police complaints is simply of no use. They do their own justice, in their own way…
And then, why did I say “The spoilt child“? Simply because Navin will never dare to say anything against them, always tolerating their bad deeds. No comments on them.
If being hindu means that I need to tolerate such uneducated and selfish people, then I am sorry to say that I am better off as a Mauritian. Personally, these are the kind of things that make you ashamed of being part of the born-hindu community and make you feel that you are more secure at home than supporting those people ruling over the sacred places like Grand Bassin.
You are now invited to share your views. You may not agree with what I said, it’s just my personal opinion, I have my own rights, just as you. You are allowed to express yourself as long as you do not quote any names or abbreviations or personally attack anyone who submits a comment here. Thanks.
Religious groups this, religious groups that. It’s time to shoot them to death. End of story.
*Disclaimer: I will not be held accountable if some idiots out there take what I said above in a serious manner.*
The “solution” to all that is better education. And this is going to take a long time…
Maybe modern media and the web will accelerate things… just like in Arab countries.
They never make the headlines for the right reasons, always for the wrong ones. I personally have never ever read even once where this so called self-proclaimed hindu protector helped (or even just verbally sympathised with) any poor hindu family in distress.
This “hindu benefactor” isnt the spoilt brat as you mentioned, look deeper into the subtlety, you will realise it is the nasty looking rottweiler to warn off any opponents by showing you are well guarded but sometimes the rottweiler does wander off its leash to attack or show unnecessary violence…
@ avinash, agree with you but unfortunately it is very disappointing that highly educated men not only condone such “benefactors” but also uses them for personal and political benefits..
I really hate this man :S
I totally agree.
You need to support the truth and peace.
Not the ones which the authorities would make you feel as your “own ones” and make you feel obliged to protect them. Else, they would question your belief in God and make you feel guilty.
Your ‘own ones’ are whom you ‘feel’ are striving for peace and unity in the country rather than the ones imposed on you.
Leave the cult and enjoy freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I end with this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJyfqeaKU8
Well said. I think the police is not free in Mauritius, it acts on behave of the government on not on justice. It is a very deep rooted problem and it will not change soon.
I have to agree because my observations of this group is that they act like thugs. There have been several incidents in the past and they never seem to be accountable for their actions. I noticed that in the preparations for Mahashivratri the Sanatan Dharma Temples Federation recommended smaller Kanwars so as not to cause road problems. The other group in question then said on TV to make them as big as you want in direct contradiction to what had been advised. Then comes other incidents where they try to force their presence on others. I view this as a dangerous organization for this country. The problem with these so-called cultural or religious associations is that they seem more active in promoting communalism than anything else. Some are blantantly fronts for their own fundamentalist agendas.
Well said. I think the police is not free in Mauritius, it acts on behalf of the government on not on justice. It is a very deep rooted problem and it will not change soon.
On the other hand, there needs to be a balance. For years there hasn’t been a strong hindu group comparable to the other religions in Mauritius.
Let’s not forget that they also do a lot of social work… which is never publicised! Did you know that this group gives food 24/24 for days during Maha Shivratree to everyone? Where’s the media coverage…
Should media start covering each group’s activities?
If it were in my hands, I’d put a law against SINGLE-RELIGION religious groups. Forcing at least 2 groups to work together, fostering a cross-religious and cultural understanding.
I think that many Mauritians confuse culture with religion… Do you really know the religious values of your fellow friend from other religions?
Yes we are tolerant, that’s among our greatest virtues, but even at my age, I’m still learning new things about other religions, finding more similarities… coming across many things historical and cultural differences that people (be it Hindu, Muslim or Christian) have grown to consider as part of religion (e.g. violence, burkha, castes…)
Change in mindset?
Time to take camera n shoot them on video !
hmm, like (Le Nid etc)
Bringing hatred for a thing that have no ground to exist.. a thing that science has proved to be fiction… religion..
Throughout time, man has always used violence to protect their imaginary benefactor…
“…I am sorry to say that I am better off as a Mauritian”
Yashvin, cannot agree with this kind of statement. The way you have behaved yourself so far indicates that you are in fact PROUD to be a Mauritian first, then “any-bloody-thing else” bax that politicians like to divide us in… Right? 🙂
Then, I would suggest that you re-phrase your statement as such, because this is actually what we feel you may have wanted to say:
“… I am proud to continue believing that I’m way better off as a Mauritian, first and foremost, and nothing else”. Don’t be sorry for what you are, you don’t need to.
One thing else:
“as long as you do not quote any names or abbreviations” why? Eh, if I eat meat and you tell it, that’s not a lie. If someone behaves like a bastard and everyone knows it’s a bastardly act, we should say it. I had an argument with a guy on this thing of not being explicit about something that we all know about (for which he’s still trying to find a reasonable answer): what the fuss? If we have a opinion to share, we must express it fully, why need to hide behind vague insinuations? An example: Mike rightly says “noticed that in the preparations for Mahashivratri the Sanatan Dharma Temples Federation recommended smaller Kanwars so as not to cause road problems. The other group in question then said on TV to make them as big as you want in direct contradiction to what had been advised.” But man, why does he have to stop short of naming that “group in question” that was contradicting MSTDF’s advice of safety. Yes, when it’s “ok”, MSTDF’s name was quoted (eh, Yashvin, you didn’t spot that one:-)), but then, why not the other?? We all (pff, yes, ok, only those who actually WATCH em-bÃ©-sÃ©-tÃ©-vÃ©) know that it’s the VOH who says such insane things as to advise against safety (who knows how many will follow them, but still the risk of electrocution and accidents are increased) and make a prostitution of their faith by going beyond what is reasonable and safe!
As usual, spot on, Sir! You may not have been living here for long, but it didn’t take you long to see behind the smoke screen. So, how on earth can our authorities still remain blind to such a toxic phenomenon that is blatantly real even to foreigners…? They are imposing self-igniting fire extinguishers for almost-nill risks of fire in cars, but are failing to see the ethno-casteist volcanoes breeding by their inaction / blindness / deafness…
Nice idea, but the constitution guarantees “libertÃ© d’association”, which like marriage, cannot be enforced upon individuals… C’est Ã§a le problÃ¨me: when you try to do something for the good, there is some other (higher?) good that gets violated, a bit like the laws in the film “I, Robot”.
“Iâ€™m still learning new things about other religions, finding more similaritiesâ€¦ coming across many things historical and cultural differences that people (be it Hindu, Muslim or Christian) have grown to consider as part of religion”: bravo, it’s a quest that I can only applaud. But, you’ll have to be strong, especially when you’ll become aware of the things that these religions officially do not / cannot recognise. For example: from where does the veneration of cows (yes, the same subject that infuriates ISKCON…) come from? And the beginnings of the followers of Mohammed? And the establishment of the first churches? Tt will be hard and diffcult, so I wish you a great trip.
Bann ‘attention-seeker’ faire tapaz… Bann zenfoutt plitot!
Bann ‘attention-seeker’ faire tapaz… Aster nou guetter couma le big boss pou dÃ©partaz zott… Eski bann zenfoutt-la pas mÃ©rite meksinn Navin plitot? 🙂
…VoH is a ‘resident’ terrorist organisation (whatever happened to POTA?), yet it has free reign to take the law into it’s own hands. It doesn’t need to enter into ‘mainstream’ politics because its has both the Labour and particularly the MSM to do it’s (VoH’s) bidding.
I’m really getting sick to the bone listening to Ramgoolam jr. harping on about how profs. James Meade and Richard Tittmus were wrong about Mauritius! A third professor; Burton Benedict was to all extents and purposes, declared persona non grata for writing about ‘Indians in a multicultural society’in 1961 (so much for freedom of expression!). Incidentally, ALL 3 were professors at the LSE; Navin’s alma mater!
Young Ramgoolam’s re-writing/distortion of the facts goes further; Prof. James Meade didn’t receive his share of the Nobel Prize for Economics until 1977 (The 1977 Economics Prize was shared with Bertil Ohlin)! Yet, the ‘Hon. PM’, in a dystopic manner continually mentions Meade’s award in the context of the LSE professor’s 1961 report on Mauritius.
Lastly, ‘ol Navin never tires of using the ‘Singapore analogy’ in his speeches, yet the island state has one of the worlds most severe sentencing procedures for being caught with even a small amount of drugs; DEATH! How about following THAT example Navin!
So, DefiMedia’s senior editor actually admires VOH now:
“Pour une fois, une action musclÃ©e de la VOH serait bien accueillie (…) Ã partir de cet Ã©vÃ©nement, la VOH serait bien inspirÃ©e dâ€™entreprendre dâ€™autres initiatives qui puissent amener les Mauriciens Ã Ã©prouver du respect pour son action”
Not a surprise that this guy openly admires VOH since his column of 26 February 2011
My exposing of this sympathy for thugs was censored initially. Please find below a copy of my second / re-stated comment:
“Mr Gobine, I re-send my previous comment (with edits) with the hope that this time it will not get censored again:
So, now we understand your admiration for VOH methods: you are the only columnist who did not condemn their ways, but only admired their “intelligence” (refer to your article entitled ”
VoH : hit now, think later” published on 26 February 2011 on the this address: http://www.defimedia.info/blogs/12/VoH–hit-now-think-later.html)
So, if VOH is now the (self-appointed) corrector of torts and standardiser of religious rites, will you agree with their “mÃ©thodes musclÃ©es” to impose their own beliefs onto others? For example: the numerous shrines built on rocky shorelines and river banks are all unlawful – do you agree that VOH makes the same action that you wish (“une action musclÃ©e de la VOH serait bien accueillie”) against these illegal constructions? Now that you have devolved the VOH as the unilateral arbitrator of the local hindu faith, will you also agree that they decide which of the Sanatanists or the Arya Samajists are indulging in THE “correct” way of celebrating hindu rites? In India, all those who practice rites linked to the hindu holy trinity are known as hindus (there is no definition, except geographical and linguistic, for tamils, telugus, marathis, as the apartheid that is practised here in Dodoland), so would you recommend that the VOH becomes responsible for standardising the rites celebrated by hindus in mauritius and india as well…?”
So, now that you are informed about the thugs attracting sympathy from so-called / self-proclaimed intelligentsia, what do we do?
what a a poor blog- the writer is a hindu first and then a Mauritian!!
What a shame- how different are you with the others who are in your view are spoil child of the PM.Â
The PM himself need a good correction- he is turning in a pure autocrat- very soon to be a dictator!!
The country have a very low level of ministers who do not have a vision as the PM has said that there is only one vision and this is his—– where are we heading!!!
Thanks for sharing your point of view.
Have a nice time on this ‘poor’ blog.
There is no meritocracy in Mauritius..And never will those on the lowest rank in society be able to achieve without some backing and bla bla…