Kanwars, a potential danger?

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I find that some people  exaggerate too much while building their “holy” kanwars for the Mahashivratree festival.

You have surely noticed that many kanwars are much larger than standard cars and much heigher than electrical cables on the streets.

I won’t deny, they are indeed beautiful, but have you ever thought about the danger of carrying these things on the roads?

Did god mentioned somewhere that you achieve your “pilgrimage” only when you carry the biggest kanwars to Grand Bassin?

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Picture Courtesy of Deepa.

Some common practices

Have a look at the following picture:

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Remarks:

  1. The kawar is much higher than the road deco  “pavillon triangles” (someone can tell me the english word please?)
  2. The guys have not only took the whole lane for then, but even part of the other lane, thus forcing the bus to halt and wait for them to pass.
  3. Long rods are used to hold cables and everything else, which come into their way.

This scene is very common, you can surely see this everywhere.

A small story…

Some 2 or 3 years back, I had set “la pagaille” into my neighbourhood, lol!

1 or 2 weeks had already elapsed since Mahashivratree but a group of persons left their big kanwars on the side of the road, just like that…

For me, it was an unacceptable thing because

  1. Those guys were never in any prayers, but just for this one, you can see them present playing the main roles.
  2. The kanwars were left there, abandoned while being a danger for the road users, that is ME!

In broad daylight, I went there and took some posters with me, in which I wrote:

“Depotoire ici” (Dumping area here) or things like that.

lol, I came back home, and a few hours later, the area was cleaned! haha!

Believe me, since then, no one dares to leave their kawars abandoned!

Setting standards for kawars?

With the increasing number of huge kanwars on the road, the risk of accidents and the probability of having traffic jams are on the rise.

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Do you think its time for the authorities to set some standards for the size of kanwars?

Just imagine, what if all the kanwars were small?

  • No need to block a whole lane for the pilgrims and the kanwars.
  • No huge traffic jams.
  • Everyone walking in “file indienne”.
  • Decreased risk of accidents

Loads of people would actually be frustrated, specially those “religious” organisations.

Naturally, the government will never go for such standards, since this will definitely make most(?) the hindous hate them!

Very bad for political parties when the majority of Mauritians are hindous.

The economics of Mahashivratree

Before ending, a few humourous advices (sometimes true indeed) sent by $pl@$#:

[UPDATE : As one of the readers(Roushdat) mentioned below, this article seems to be written by a Mauritian Hindu Priest.
Can someone please send me his name if you are aware of this? Thanks.]

Some extracts :

  • Do not throw money in Ganga Talao on grounds that wishes will be fulfilled. […] Instead put in donation boxes. […]  e. g 50,000 (devotees) x Rs 10 = Rs 500,000 thrown in water each year (average estimate).
  • […] all offerings (prasad) should be taken away, otherwises it would decay and cause pollution/environmental degradation. Cleanliness is next to Godliness.
    An offering costs about Rs 150/200 per family, […] Offerings should be moderate, not excessive. E. g 400,000 (devotees) x Rs 100 = Rs 40 million wasted each year (average estimate).
  • Disposal of offerings involves high scavenging (labour) and transport costs.  […]
    We buy, we carry, we pray and offer in the name of Lord Shiva and leave it deliberately […] ?
    Is it religiously correct to classify these offerings as waste ? We are failing in our religious duties.
  • The passenger capacity of one bus is about 65 passengers which is equivaient to that of 25 cars. […] This would result in substantial savings in fuel and intangible costs.
  • A pilgrimage is always based on discipline and sacrifice. It is not a fun walk. It’s an inner-seeking religious walk.

Maha Shivratree should be performed in a spirit of sacrifice, otherwise it would be adharmic (religiously incorrect).
[…]

“Shiva” means change.

It destroys.

It’s high time to change our excessive attitudes and adopt a sustainable mindset in this religious realm. […]

But I ask myself, when will we change?

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  1. Each year, everyone rants about how kanwars should be made smaller… but in the end, no one cares – they just go on doing their big kanwars.

    More than anything else, these big kanwars are danger to the people carrying it – suppose if it falls over someone!

    I think it’s high time there should be law detailing the maximum permissible dimensions of a kanwar. Should be the same like the maximum for vehicles.

    🙂

    +1 for the advices in the economics of Mahashivratree. 😉

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  2. Ur points make sense, domage ki mentalite most Mauricien impe tro arrierer pu pense cumsa…

    But calling donations (in whichever form) a ‘waste’ is totally crap man. Use ur words wisely…

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  3. yeah! i totally agree that standards should be set for kanwars and a limit to the height and widths.
    des fois pa capav circuler on the way to grand bassin akoz 1 kanwar ine pren toute la route. c exagerer

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  4. Bob said:
    “But calling donations (in whichever form) a ‘waste’ is totally crap man. Use ur words wisely…”

    Damn. He’s so clever. Of course, if it is a waste, I don’t find a better word will be able to suit that meaning.Damn, some people are always on kinda anger mode. Yash, 1 jour to pou gagne baT r banla..LOL

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  5. Someone told me that in the old days the kanwar was much smaller and a hand-held one? Today, some have the dimensions of double-decker buses! Over the past years I have been observing the departure of young groups on their walk to Grand Bassin. What was noticeable was that after the puja by the local pandit the young guys set-off most of them inserting their ear-pieces of their walkman or GSM/portable. It definitely took on a carnival, fun walk atmosphere and not at all religious. Maybe that is the exception but in some cases you get that impression.

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  6. @ Bob:
    But calling donations (in whichever form) a ‘waste’ is totally crap man. Use ur words wisely…

    lol, I did not really said it waste, in fact, I copied this from a mail as I mentioned.

    @ Mike :

    the young guys set-off most of them inserting their ear-pieces of their walkman or GSM/portable. It definitely took on a carnival, fun walk atmosphere and not at all religious

    Nice point raised here by Mike, Congrats!!!

    Perhaps they are listening to the radio for any possible news related to bottlenecks and accidents related to Mahashivratree? lol

    @ Tushal :
    Yash, 1 jour to pou gagne baT r banla

    lol, I have another story, but I will leave the details for holi.
    On one holi, I took a big wooden bar and set out to knock down a guy who threw holi on me.
    1. I didnt knew him
    2. He never talked to me
    3. I was on my way back from tuition
    4. He didnot listen to me.

    There is so much to do to change the mentality of some people.

    Since then, nobody dared to play holy with me LOL!

    @All : I have nothing against those who pray. Its their right, as well as I have the right not to believe, but at least, I dont pretend.

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  7. Offtopic, Yash I will come to play holi with you. Don’t worry.:p@Mike–> Also you forgot to add something. Some youngsters consume alcoholic drinks while they are walking to Grand Bassin.

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  8. yeah right…i agree!

    1st case: al fer puja, met 3 banane, pik 2 sandal dan chaken. kas 1 coco fan sindour lor tou ban zafer ok, puja fini. WTF, si pa ti pik ban sandal la ek szet sindour lor coco la, be 1 dimun ki cav pren li, mai non

    2nd case: on saturday 1 went to a mandir, ti ena ban pelgrin ki ti dan hall. zot p fim gandia…wtf, are they allowed to do so? someone told me that these were exception!

    So they are going on fun walk or what?

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  9. The Mauritius Standards Bureau (MSB) can perhaps come up with a series of standards for kanwars…width,height, weight, materials,routes, time, speed…

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  10. Lol!

    @ Roushdat :
    speed? LOL!

    Yeah maybe 60km/h where it applies and yeah the new 110km/h where neneded! lol!

    No seriously I also think some laws should apply for the height, maybe for their own safety (electrical lines etc..)

    As for the young ones, yes, SOME do it for fun, but i believe that without being aware of it they are doing the right thing (the pilgrimage thing…)  Maybe when they grow up they will realise it’s importance and sincerely devote themselves when they walk to GB.  I can’t blame them for I hated all the pujas etc when Ii was young.  Later I realised it’s importance..bref..

    As for the ‘prasad’ I think some associations should collect the fruits and share it among the poors…and as for the money donation, if you put it in the donation boxes I wonder how much goes into the pockets of certain people…

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  11. What’s the point of building oversized kanwars anyway?? Does it mean you are more devoted to God?? The first people to go on pilgrimage to G-Bassin had kanwars the size of small cavadee kanwar we see these days. Why did they start growing in size? Who came up with this idea? If it’s only for show-off, then it’s defeating the purpose of being religious and devoted to God. What we call ‘religion’ these days is more and more about showing off and being ‘religious’ for the sake of being ‘religious’ rather than for personal search for fulfillment.

    And you are absolutely right about some youngsters thinking this is a school leisure trip rather than a spiritual journey.

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  12. bon mo pas p dacor ditou la :@ Yashvin demande Spl@sh kisanla ti send li sa mail ‘The economics of Mahashivratree’.. mo pas dacor li gagne tou credit lol kan mem 1 lot dimoune ti send moi hahaha..

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  13. Good I usually dont bother about them as till now they have not obstruct my way in anyway. Anyway its jst once a year. Concerning throwing money in the Bassin…i would be glad if they donated to me lol 😛

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  14. how about insurance? if one of these tall kanwars happen to fall on a passenger car or motorbike, who’s going to pay for the dents on the vehicle?

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  15. it really a problem. every year their is traffic jam just because some idiots built big kanwars. if that problem will have concern another religion obviously the authority would have done some thing but since it concern Hinduism and the government is a Hindu thus no problem. how such discrimination exits in a world where we suppose say NO TO RACISM. that’s not fair at all. by the way the festival of cavedee was just celebrated and they construct their cavede which is of such a side that only one person can carried it n y dont the pelgrin of Grand Bassin do so. traffic has always been a problem during that period, have someone think that certain emergency vehicles such as Ambulance need to travel, so why dont they considering these fact before contructing their kanwars. if a small car get problem to circulate so how will an Ambulance or even the Fire Bridgate go through the traffic jam in case of emegencies. the call their act a sacrifice but where the sacrifies if other got problem. is that wats God ask to do. God in any Religion had never said to put others even if they are from others Religion in trouble while praying Him. big kanwars is just man EGO not God wish. so people dont b selfish otherwise your pilgrimage is useless. for those who dont know traffic jam is a source of air pollution as car release more toxic gas during traffic jam than in normal driving condition. if the government dont do anything that problem will cause important disaster in our fragile environment.

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  16. @MAjmal

    What the hell has racism got to do with this?? I don’t think there are any regulations for non-hindu festivals, authorities can’t regulate ANY religious festival. Here it’s a matter of people using common sense and building a kanwar of a decent size which won’t hinder the public or harm someone. There is no racism or need for govt intervention, there just needs to be some sensitisation because some people are too thick to understand that how big a kanwar is has no religious relevance but it does create security issues. But of course, when you talk about religion, common sense often flies out of the window.

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  17. Do not waste ur time and energy with these futile things.

    if the guys feel happy and pleased with their kanwar creations, let it be.
    they will carry out their pilgrimmage much better, than if restrictions are made. As it is, any actions carried out in the name of God cannot be a “potential” danger to you..

    It is all in a state of mind..

    How can you put laws and standards in prayer?

    Camphors have been denied in 1 mandir lately..the reason being to keep the walls clean and tidy. guess that incense sticks/hawan denials shall follow, due to the smoke emanating.
    Ultimately, we had to intervene to help preserve our values and culture (without any disrespect to other religions).

    this festival happens once in a year. Go concentrate your energies with more crucial issues (and group-therapies).

    All religions are same and should be respected by everybody!!

    VOH

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  18. i’m damn sure everyone who commented above about being against the festival in any sense has NEVER gone on the pilgrimage ever!! Else, you wouldnt write these kinds of nonsense.
    be considerate, its just 3 days of celebration.

    kanwar, a potential danger. ok. i agree with potential. even you are a potential danger to the society yashvin! you have the potential to beat and kick anyone, so we should make a standard about your everyday actions. lol.

    about the biggest kanwar, did you ever helped in building one? AND did you ever CARRY one? the group, of course, build a size of kanwar which they can carry the whole way to grand bassin and back home! the leg pain is is terrible sometimes, and despite that they are able to carry it. you should admire that instead!

    and you guys are exagerating with the traffic jam and related things. just consider the kanwar as being a Lorry! even in your car when you pass alongside a lorry, you slow down. and the traffic is due to the number of people converging to grand bassin. and it is logical that we will give way for emergency vehicle to go.
    blame the narrow roads for traffic jam. the kanwars are not big – its the ROADS are narrow!

    MAjmal: we should really say no to racism. tell this to yourself first! btw why the crime of killing so many animals just for one festival? where is religion or celebration if you are killing animals? look into yourself before you point at others!

    If anyone of you have been to grand bassin, you would notice that the economic wastes that have been mentioned above has dramatically decreased.

    there will always be some people that will do awkward things and go to the extremes. but you cannot generalize the issue!!

    Shiva does not just destroys. Shiva Creates also!!

    everybody is saying change is needed in mauritius, and i really think its high time that these people (who are saying it) should really change their negative mindset first.

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    1. @ Shaolin :
      First of all, thanks for ur time n visit in this blog.
      Let me re-assure you, YOU have not wasted your precious time while writing your comment in this post.

      I quote :
      “How can you put laws and standards in prayer?”

      Camphors have been denied in 1 mandir lately..the reason being to keep the walls clean and tidy. guess that incense sticks/hawan denials shall follow, due to the smoke emanating”

      You have said it all.
      Everything has a start.

      @ CR7:
      Welcome back mate!

      Let me see…
      I dont think that anyone above has actually gone against the festival, do correct me if some said that they are against Mahashivratree.
      Even Tushal did not say this lol!

      You said “kanwar, a potential danger. ok. i agree with potential.
      Most of the commentors above seem to agree that oversized kanwars may be a potential danger.

      even you are a potential danger to the society yashvin! you have the potential to beat and kick anyone, so we should make a standard about your everyday actions.
      Perhaps you are not aware, but every Mauritian has to follow the laws and regulations stated in The Constitution of Mauritius.

      did you ever helped in building one? AND did you ever CARRY one?
      Perhaps I may be wrong, but you seem a bit off-topic here.
      At no point, I have brought this point forward.
      Let me remind you, we are discussing about ‘oversized’ kanwars which may be a potential source of danger to road users.

      I quote :

      just consider the kanwar as being a Lorry

      And you dare speak about religion???
      Is a kanwar comparable to a lorry?
      Next time, push a lorry then!

      there will always be some people that will do awkward things
      Awareness…
      Thats was the aim of those points written in the post.
      Besides, here is a quote from my post “advices (sometimes true indeed)

      But as I always say, everyone has the right to have his/her own opinion, and I will respect that.

      Cheers!

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  19. oh..

    i was comparing kanwar to lorry to its size! not weight or anything else. the size of the lorry actually takes full width of the road, as does the kanwar.
    a lorry is then oversized, and should be standardised to the size of a car? LOL

    i dont get it why people have an issue with the size of the kanwars.
    btw, is there any cases where the kanwars caused danger because of its size? none to my knowledge!

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    1. @CR7:
      Excuse me, but I can’t see any mention of that in your statement.
      Anyway, still, you have been comparing a kanwar to a lorry.

      I prefer not to comment on your pharse:
      “a lorry is then oversized, and should be standardised to the size of a car? LOL”
      Purely nonsense, judge it by yourself.

      “btw, is there any cases where the kanwars caused danger because of its size? none to my knowledge!”
      Prevention is better than cure, did you heard about this somewhere?

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  20. ‘AND did you ever CARRY one? the group, of course, build a size of kanwar which they can carry the whole way to grand bassin and back home! the leg pain is is terrible sometimes, and despite that they are able to carry it. you should admire that instead!’
    ….who told you to build that size if you know what kind of pain you will endure?i don’t think yashvin is forced to ”admire” this as i don’t think that someone carrying a smaller kanwar will get less reward from god

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  21. @ronit: i thought he said they are beautiful. and i never said they get double or more reward if they build a big one. and i dont think i complained about pain or complained about anything! and i did say they build a kanwar of a size that they can carry.

    @yashvin: I think a LOL means its a joke?

    prevention is better than cure.. i thought it was about health!

    did you heard of: if something aint broke, dont fix it?

    I find the issue as nonsense and no use to comment more on this one. especially to atheists.

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    1. @ CR7:
      “the leg pain is terrible sometimes, and despite that they are able to carry it. you should admire that instead!”

      Isn’t that a form of complaining?
      Sorry for the misunderstanding then!

      “a lorry is then oversized, and should be standardised to the size of a car?
      Did I read it wrong or you have placed a question mark ??
      btw, this is a question.

      I quote:

      “It is better to try to keep a bad thing from happening than it is to fix the bad thing once it has happened.”

      [source]

      “if something aint broke, dont fix it?”
      If you consider this as a mere issue, then let it happen to one of your own, you will see.

      “I find the issue as nonsense”
      btw, Congrats, you are the first one who found this issue nonsense.

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  22. FFS, this has nothing to do with it being a religious festival, it has to do with oversized kanwars. Once again, there is NO religious logic to building a big kanwar and going through the pain so that you could be considered as a great devotee, why don’t people just use their common sense?? Maha Shivratree will lose nothing in terms of its massive religious signficance, actually it might make it more enjoyable for fellow hindus to celebrate it. Maha Shivratree is not about big kanwars, it’s about something much deeper that unfortunately most people fail to comprehend. I don’t claim to be immensely religious or spiritual but carrying a huge kanwar (thus being something of a nuisance on the roads)has anything to do with Maha Shivratree. Of course, we don’t need any regulations, festivals should NOT be regulated by strict laws, we just need people to acquire some common sense.

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    1. btw, Yashi just raised this point here, I would like to know where it is written that kanwars should be that big?

      I may not know history well, but it seems that the first pilgrims did not carry any kanwars, can someone please confirm?
      [preferably someone who has witnessed this, lol!]

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  23. i believe yashi is right. there is no point in building big kanwars.

    i think some people have a theory that the harder the pilgrimmage, the more fruitful it’ll be.. maybe thats a factor to go for big kanwars..
    (well thats a misconception and i think our pundits are to be blamed for not showing and advising)

    prayers or pilgrimmage lose their whole point if you cause trouble to other people while performing them.. it becomes useless..

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  24. Kammal & Spl@sh , the humorous advice were not that humorous…it was seriously published in a paper (unfortunately i don’t remember which one) and the author is a Hindu priest.

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  25. @ TL : Please be more precise lol, we are here talking of the size of kanwars 😛

    @ vicks : Totally true…
    The religious organisations have never raised this point in their numourous “prayers’ or guidelines for the festival.
    I believe that pilgrimmage should be done without actually disturbing others.
    In this perspective, there is practically no difference between pilgrimmage and the arrival of the president of the [xxx].

    @ Roushdat : Great! At least one of them showed some wisdom!
    But as CR7 mentioned earlier, it seems that there wasn’t much wastage this yr.

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  26. Who is saying that size of kanwar doesnt cause problems???
    i witnessed an accident and it was the fault of the kanwar.

    ‘btw, is there any cases where the kanwars caused danger because of its size? none to my knowledge!’

    now u have the knowledge.

    CR7: ok the others did not go on pilgrimage. i did and am telling u that the bigger the kanwar , the bigger is the problem.

    ‘blame the narrow roads for traffic jam. the kanwars are not big – its the ROADS are narrow!’its like saying pa moi li sa…common grow up – these kind of reflections is no more acceptable.

    ‘everybody is saying change is needed in mauritius, and i really think its high time that these people (who are saying it) should really change their negative mindset first.’

    YES i agree, start by urself buddy.

    dont take it at heart, its just my humble opinion 😛

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  27. first of all, i wanna point out something! pilgrims to grand bassin are supposed to be very ‘pious’. however, it is known that many of them build ( while building their kanwars) small wooden or metal boxes underneath so that THEY CAN KEEP THEIR CIGARETTES safe from the rain! thats’ absolutely disgusting. fasting should be a period of sacrifice blablabla and these ppl do their best to have their cigs,alcohol and even some of them bring gandia while they walk to GB. this is a verified fact. i got the news from some of the pilgrims and even some pundits have protested against this. i agree that these youngsters may realise the importance of prayers when they will grow up ( unless zot gagn maladie yashvin :-P, lolz kidding yashvin,i respect ur opinion) but they should be taught how to behave. gbassin is not a place where ppl go to have fun but to pray.
    secondly, i agree that kanwars should be made of a certain height for the safety of ppl but well,if they want to take the responsibility of these kanwars till there is any law or whatever,then its up to them.

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  28. UPDATE :
    As one of the readers(Roushdat) mentioned below, this article seems to be written by a Mauritian Hindu Priest.
    Can someone please send me his name if you are aware of this?
    Thanks.

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  29. Did god mentioned somewhere that you achieve your “pilgrimage” only when you carry the biggest kanwars to Grand Bassin?

    You raised a good point =)

    The thing is… mankind has always been fascinated by size… they always feel that the bigger it is… the better it is… i guess, even after many talks about this, this sort of mental perception will never change.. ohh well, it really is up to them.

    Yes you are very right to say it is uncomfortable for the rest of the population, but, due to the government inability to deal with this and to put some stricter laws [which would be a bad thing (i’ll come to that later on), it shall just be up to the persons building the kanwars.

    Its like being polite, having someone being polite to you is nice, but you can’t really force people to be polite.. can you?

    As for whether god said whatever…

    The thing is… a pilgrimage is supposed to be a sacrifice… if you build a big kanwar, you are supposed to take that all by yourself to its destination, and don’t just share the pain with others or leave it by the road when you are tired… else it is better than the man who build a small kanwar and managed to carry it on his own (or group of person). This is called sacrifice.

    The kawar is much higher than the road deco “pavillon triangles” (someone can tell me the english word please?)

    In english that would be called oriflamme [correct me if i am wrong], apparently this was some sort of sacred banner used by kings of france in the middle ages… the word comes from that…

    Thankfully the have a long trishul [the trident] to lift up the oriflammes on the road, ofcourse :p legally it isn’t even supposed to be there, but i believe… we are in a multi cultural country and those things reminds us of our origin and is cool, i believe most other communities don’t have any trouble with it either.

    it would be a problem if they had.. as remember its better to respect all other communities rather than selfishly doing something just because “i think i am the majority”. But till now, we have never had any problems.. long live mauritius :p.

    The guys have not only took the whole lane for then, but even part of the other lane, thus forcing the bus to halt and wait for them to pass.

    Sincerely, many just are dumb, i don’t know if they do that by arrogance or whatever, sure enough, you you are given part of the road for the pilgrimage, you shouldn’t abuse of that right, i guess people just will never understand, but then there are a few who understands. I guess it isn’t the fault of priests also, because many a times, in most temples, pandits will mention this to pilgrims, to do their pilgrimage in respect of other communities [same applies during cavadees]. At my place, usually we have people responsible just for controlling that, but for maha shivaratree, it is another story, because the crowd is large, and the place is everywhere, so controlling that is kind of … REALLY difficult, i guess here also, it will come with education, over time, maybe with the future generation?

    yashvinnnn, eski tonn demann sa bann boug la zot permission avant to prend zot en foto :p ??? hahahahahaha

    1. Those guys were never in any prayers, but just for this one, you can see them present playing the main roles.

    Waii franc tou, sa kalitE dimoune la emmerdant…
    You see that in most religion, i guess they are just hypocrites looking for some “fame”, can’t do anything about those dudes neither, since it is dealing with god, i guess they’ll be judged accordingly… i usually don’t care, coz as long as they’ve are praying equally, coz in the end if they have sinned, they’ll be the one reaping what they sow, so who cares about nimporte like those :p.. am sure most people “prend nissa ar zot sa”

    2. The kanwars was left there, abandoned while being a danger for the road users, that is ME!

    THIS IS BAD. Because usually you have godly representations on those kanwars, it is supposed to be something sacred, and should be destroyed in a river i think [not sure about that].

    “Depotoire ici” (Dumping area here) or things like that.

    Way to go!

    Just imagine, what if all the kanwars were small?

    * No need to block a whole lane for the pilgrims and the kanwars.
    * No huge traffic jams.
    * Everyone walking in “file indienne”.
    * Decreased risk of accidents

    Yes, but you can’t limit the imagination of people, and having a restriction on it would be sooo against freedom. Ofcourse, people SHOULD BE Courteous enough to build something IN RESPECT of everyone else!
    Gro tipti li pas fer difference sa, your heart should be in it. Yet, you can’t have someone restraining you from doing it bigger, but still, you should have the education to know to respect others on the road.

    (NOTE: i don’t mean people lacks education, i am just merely saying people should use that education).

    Yes, then there’ll be no traffic jams, specially if everyone walks in an orderly fashion.

    Because, remember if there’s someone is sick and urgently needs medical attention… you don’t want to have his death on your conscience.

    The economics of Mahashivratree

    God is everything [at least if you have faith… ], such expenses shouldn’t be seen as expenses when you are praying, as after all [if you are a believer] god is the one who gave you that thing in the first place, so contributing a bit for some offerings isn’t that bad….

    Besides, am sure many smokers here will agree with me that they spend far more on cigarettes… instead of buying cigarettes :p contribute the money to some orphanage :p.

    The passenger capacity of one bus is about 65 passengers which is equivaient to that of 25 cars. Hence, about 25 parking spaces would be available if we travelled in one bus. This would result in substantial savings in fuel and intangible costs, e. g air, water pollution, stress.

    Good point, and security wise….

    I will never dream bringing a BMW there, you have no idea what freak could just scratch up your car… of course i don’t have a BMW :p.
    Be logical :p.

    A pilgrimage is always based on discipline and sacrifice. It is not a fun walk. It’s an inner-seeking religious walk.

    Very true.

    BUT… Grand Basin is a PUBLIC place for all Mauritians… so some people who doesn’t have faith can go there as if on a fun walk.. ofcourse.. while respecting their fellow hindu brothers, [e.g i heard reports that there was a dude eating non veg food there.. that’s sooo gross to do that there.. specially on that day… pffft unethical]

    But I ask myself, when will we change?

    Don’t ask yourself “WHEN”, ask yourself “HOW”.

    🙂

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  30. Hello dear

    I dont want to offend anyone, I just want to ask. Ive heard that the pilgrims of Grand Bassin also worship the sex of Lord Shiva which is represented by the black rock.
    How far is this true?
    please I want to know

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  31. worship the sex of Lord Shiva which is represented by the black rock.
    How far is this true?

    HELL NO!

    Acrtually, this black rock as you call it is known as the lingam, or the shiva lingam. It is the most ancient reprentation of the lord shiva. Associating it with a sexual symbol is a major misinterpretation which has mostly been cleared nowadays.

    There are many theories about how the lingam began to be used as a symbol/mark of shiva, but certainly not to represent a sexual organ :).

    The theory I tend to agree with is that, from the very beginning, shiva was represented by a lingam because special rocks out of rivers which needed no carvings and seems polished and so perfect is the best thing to represent god, something superior. Note that sometime shiva is also represented by fire as it is also a symbol of purity.

    You can read more about lingas here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam

    I hope i have cleared your misunderstanding :).

    Have a good day.

    cheers
    +$3|v3n

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  32. LOL!

    @ selven
    Thnx for clearing this out…

    But mind you, It’s India (Hindus) who invented the Kama Sutra. You’d be surprised…

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  33. @ Selne

    LOL! You made me laugh alone…pff… 🙂

    No I did not mean that you have to think of Kamasutra during your pilgrimmage to GBassin…lol!

    It’s just that in KS, lingam is actually referred to the man’s reproductive system (am rating my words in case there are kids reading this..e.g Yashvin meme :P)

    Anyway, I had an old Sanskrit KS book (which an AHOLE ex friend lost)..and it was in full sanskrit…but i did understand few words…so….

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  34. Anyway, I had an old Sanskrit KS book (which an AHOLE ex friend lost)..and it was in full sanskrit…but i did understand few words…so….

    hahahah you have some nice book collections! hahahahaha

    No I did not mean that you have to think of Kamasutra during your pilgrimmage

    :p that would be funny :p

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  35. Nice Article. Another thing i would like to point out is that many people offer refreshments and food along the road… But as soon as they are done, its a big mess that is left behind with lots of plastic cups thrown everywhere, paper litter etc… that’s really a shame.

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  36. Dear Yashvin,
    Find your comments and resaerch on potential dangers of Kanwars ,really interesting.Am a student attending basic journalism course at L’Alliance Francaise,B,village.Am working on this particular topic for an article as course project( won’t be published).Would be most grateful if you could contact me via my e-mail.Thanking you before-hand.

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  37. By the way Mr.YASHWIN AWOOTAR, let me remind u that u have taken a picture of a kawar without permision & according to law thats illeagal. So could u plaease remove the picture before any legal actions of is taken against you (diflamation). Thank you. (from then president of shiv shankar sangathan, whose kawar picture was taken without permission.)

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