Do you believe in god?

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i like ur reasoning kavi….. not many pple think this way.
rub some of ur wisdom on yashvin 😉

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what is the origin of God?
or let me rephrase that.
Who created God?

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For those who pray to God to get something in life (Exams, driving test, lottery, …) let me tell you, YOU WILL NEVER GET IT! GOD WILL NEVER GIVE IT TO YOU!

HOWEVER, if you do make your cheap asses work as they should, if YOU DO make the EFFORT, stop bullshitting and complaining, God WILL help you.

For all those selfish bastards who think that if God exists, He should grant ever shitty wishes “If he exists then I should be… I should have … I would be …” well too bad, you can keep on waiting. be my guest!

I never prayed to God. never asked Him anything because I know He wouldn’t give it to me but he would expect me to work for it and He would help me in the way!!!

Example: Today I am at a world-class university thanks to my efforts. God did not sit for my exams but how did he help me get into this University? huh?. He did what man and money couldn’t! I faced so many gaps that prevented me from entering this Univ. Well, God bridged those gaps! Saw his power? Could you do that?

You can’t deny the existence of God because of lame excuses such that “If he existed, then why… ?”

Everything happens for a reason. You might choose not to believe in Him thats absolutely fine.

Help yourself and God will help you!

Find out more on : http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html

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Hi there,

I see the debate has reached maturity with opinions diverging…

The best comment till now is that of Kunal… You have said something that makes real sense… We should work towards our goals in order for GOD to help us in return…

We are not here for NOTHING! or out of NOTHING! Question your existence? Can anyone of you: Can you create the least small of creature on earth, for example a MOSQUITO? Can you? Or Can the Nature do this by itself?

I think, we should not be as selfish to the extent that we forget our own existence and be ‘ingrat’ towards Our creator….

I’ll also end on Kunal’s note: Help Yourself and GOD will Help YOU!

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tu cki contre ha lidE bizin kwar dan bondiE la vine dan mo lequipe :d
mw mo dir…god doesnt exist!!!!!!!!
dpwi l’enfance ine fer nu kwoir dan bondiE, c pour cela ki ena fois nu dir ‘ayo bondiE :p’ meme si nu pa mean li!!!!

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can you read and tel me your opinion about zis everyone:

http://nonaro.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/why-science-fails-to-explain-god/

What do you think about ze way he explain us zat there is something large, eternal and unknowable?(precision: i said ze way he args…)

ashvin, yash youuu yayyaaa lol are you sure zat i’m a believer?!!!

cela me semble trop facile de te donner la solution!!! pa di tt di tt marrant …zen boy creuse toi un peu les meninges et tu trouveras.(keep FAITH LOL..)
de plus je t’ai donné un indice: truth or dare!!!

bouuuuuuuuuuuuuu looooooooooooool

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still to Divana:

LOL!
“are you sure zat i’m a believer?!!!”

you are giving away comments that makes ppl believe that you are one by reading all these!
and u are asking me if am sure that u r a believer?
are u trying to make urself ashame?
successfully done!

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to Avishna:
hmm, am happy u r back dear 🙂
none of us said that the 95% are mad n need a psy, at least, we respect everyone’s opinion.
We simply have another way of thinking…

ah wi, to ena raison, bane seki gagne connection internet, pas blier send me a mail…
tan dire dan heaven connection wifi la top 😛
et dan hell, ena sa wimax connection ki morice appelle No-Mad…:p

(t)keep in touch!

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tout d’abord il y a MOI…

and more of them (believer or non-believer ) who say that they respect others belief, opinions…

That makes MOI + Others = We…

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hahahahaha hohohohohoh ohohohohohohohooooo

i think i like kavi with with direct response to u yash! li pa passe par 3 4 5 chimins to say wat he feels!

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lol debate is still on! i knw li pa pu ena 1 fin sa zafr la! :o|-)

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LOL sa wai Yashvin, mo ena tendence zourrer ene tas… BTW to post la p vine meme longeure ek to village (Triolet…LOL)

Glacon raper ek la neige la vrai sa, ena God’s hand ladans… Si li pas ti fer la neige tomber, mo pas ti pou capav fer sorbet raper…

Ahaaaaaaa!!! to trouve so l’importance? Eski to capav fer la neige tomber toi ? :p

Btw2: mo tendence zourrer la, God pena anrien pou fer ladans, li dans mo DNA tout simplement…

:):):):):):):p:p

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hello isee…
thnks for ur comments…
Instead of replying directly to ur question, i would take that with me as example.
See, i dont believe in god and all the stuff, but when am gonna get married one day, i will have to play the drama n follow the wedding rituals, JUST because its like that in the family-society.
Ya, despite not believing in it, am gonna do it, just like i “do/participate” in certain religious ceremonies (for example: for my grandparents death anniversary etc) JUST because of my respect towards them, koz i believe in them, they were real and are still real for me.
Even they, they knew i didnt believe in god, but for the love i have for them, i do it, exactly the same for wedding… For the respect and love…

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i just want to say smthing….above all the religious stuff…its spirituality….which in fact brings a meaning to the life u al live…n again this is smthing debatable…but wats the use of holding a debate if it only brings about quesitons which no one can answer???wats the use of a debate if it brings nothing more than unanswerable kestions???well, if u ask the right person, ull hav the right answers…bt whos this right person???so ill just ask u evybody, blievers or not, listen to ur heart, the answer is there…

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You prefer to believe in god or not..its up to u..
its never been a choice…really
just a feeling that somebody is there watching 🙂
all u have to do is listen

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The meaning of life > The reason why science cannot answer the meaning of life is simply because there is no such thing as the meaning of life. We construct that meaning in our brain. From the day we are born till the day we die, our brain collects information and depending on the way it processes them, we create different meanings for different things. Life does not boil down to one thing, but it is the sum total of a brain’s existence.

Life by itself, is nothing without the thought we give to it. We are in control of our thoughts, and if you understand that, you know there is no god. A thought process can be explained by science – how the brain works – but the thought itself is unique to information recorded in one’s brain. Science is good at explaining things that can be replicated, but the thoughts of each individual cannot be explained by science as no thoughts are identical. Why no thoughts are identical is simply because we are not robots.

To presume that the meaning of life can be boiled down to god and scriptures is just the easy way out – it is taking for granted that we all think in the same way – this very discussion proves no one can have identical thoughts.

If by going deep into scriptures you can realize that the existence of many gods is simply a human creation due to the misinterpretation of scriptures, then I suggest you look beyond scriptures, try to understand their framework, their use, their communication system etc… If you dig deep enough, and think beyond what you read in scriptures, if you decipher beyond the obvious, you might understand that scriptures are just social laws to control people, and that god is a constructed higher power that’s sole purpose is to give hope to people, and give them an ideal to venerate. You have to keep an open-mind to understand that.

Faith is a thought, darwins theory is a thought, god is a thought, no god is a thought, you are a thought in people’s mind – no need to look into scriptures to find the meaning of life, look at yourself, you are the meaning of life.

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this made me remember about the scientific definition of life which,according to me, is the most precise.

“Life is an autonomous chemical system capable of following a Darwinian evolution.” – NASA

but wat about the spiritual meaning of life? what is the purpose of man on this planet? feed-breed and survive? that’s what this world is becoming now

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Propabilty cannot be negative 😀

Nice reflection Mr Meetoo..

Divana read a bit on Darwin’s Theory …

bane zafer ki pa encr expliker par humain, nou ena tendance pu dire c bon dieu ou black magic.. Bein franchement mo penser nou bizin etre resonable n make use of our logic and do GOOD.. Religion god tou sa, c creation humain.. Who gave GOD his name?? how can we say each religion has a different god?? demain si mo decide pu creer ene nouveau religion, maybe pu ena ene nouveau bon dieu..c mo point de vue, if am wrong correct me please.. thxs.. 😉

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Jing logiquement mo prefer croire dans science cause, bocu maladie grave ine gagne ene cure grace a science alor ki la prayers… Grace a science to p kapav ecrire lor ha blog la, grace a science to p kav gagne clean water, electricity and have a life different from animals..

U said that science doesnot come with definite answers, but did u get ANY answers or explanations from GOD?

What if The real name of GOD should have been Science?? and scientists are devotees?? and Einstein, Darwin, Newton etc are prophetes??

:p

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Yashvin, personally I consider it is not right to be disrespectful towards people. But beliefs are not people. People have to be respected, beliefs don’t have to. Beliefs have to be scrutinized and if found wanting, they should be abandoned. It is absurd to respect them just because someone might get offended. If people are offended by the truth, let them be offended. Truth must be said whether the lovers of lies like it or not.

It seems you do so too but to a certain point only.

A hypocrite is a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.

Using the example you gave, your grandparents death anniversary (if they believed in that religion the ceremony belongs to), that is THEIR thing, so it is ok to participate no matter your beliefs, that is a sign of respect and love for them, you go for the persons, not their beliefs. Again, it is THEIR thing.

Your wedding is something different. Your wedding is YOUR thing (or that is what should be). It is a very important event and doing things JUST because that or that, opposing your beliefs, will make you a hypocrite. Using your “love and respect for them” it is the lamest and most used excuse to cover hypocrisy in such cases. You keep saying about YOUR love and respect for them. What about THEIR love and respect for YOU? Your wedding day is the time for the OTHERS to show THEIR respect and love for YOU because is YOUR thing. It is a perfect opportunity for truth to come out regarding how much you mean for others, especially for your family and to find out if you have their unconditional love and respect or not.

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science is not just logic and senses, it can t be compared to tasting food.. it s exhaustive research and experimentation… Give me proof concerning the existence of GOD… i mean convincing one and not holy books and statues…

PS: u believe in god, but what about the devil? does he exist? :p

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Jing

The idea of perfection is an illusion. What is perfect to you might not be perfect to me and vice versa. The universal absolute perfection of something is not arrived at because it is actually perfect, but because a group of people come an agreement (a collective thought) to regard that thing as perfection. (this is how religion came about) This does not make the thing perfect in anyway – it is just a thought of what perfection is (This is how the concept of god came about.)

I don’t believe in the scriptures because I choose to believe in my logic – the logic of choice which any mind has. (Just like you chose to believe in GOD, I chose not to believe in GOD). My logic does not believe in the the idea of perfection as it is something we cannote and will never attain. It is just a journey without a destination.

Hence, I totally agree with you that our senses are not perfect. But then, if you know that our senses are not 100% perfect, how can you start claiming that all the points described are 100% viable, and how can you believe without any doubt that it is god who wrote them. You surely need to make use of your knowledge, your logic, and your senses to understand what’s written in those scriptures. How do you know your senses are exposing the truth to you? How do you know they are not misleading you?

If our logic cannot be perfect, then how can we even understand the idea of perfection, which you claim symbolizes god.

When you read those scriptures, you must know that they have been written, rewritten, translated from different languages etc…, how can you be so sure that the meaning has not changed? How can you be so sure that with the knowledge you currently have, and the language you are currently deciphering those scriptures with, you are actually understanding the actual meaning. Furthermore, as you must know, words never hold single meanings. Then how can you believe there are absolute meanings for each words written in a scripture.

Today you are brandishing a scripture and stating perfection can be understood in the Bahgavad gita. Someone else is brandishing their scripture and stating the same thing as you. Who to believe? Thats where people choose! You chose one path, hence you did not choose the other one. That does not mean your path is the right, wrong, perfect or imperfect one. It just means you chose to believe in something.

You are not actually realising that you have convinced yourself that this perfection exists in that scripture. That does not necessarily mean other people will be convinced. The logic you have developed makes you believe it is perfection, but does that make it perfection? NO. It is just your thought of perfection.

As I said and will keep on saying, GOD lives and dies in your head. Live with it.

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wel..i blive in god..
pkoi?pakner..av been conditioned to that..
mais bn..chacun son opinion

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Yashvin, j’ai trouvé ton article lol dans la partie “most commented”, bon ben jvais encore écrire en français car jsuis française (au cas ou si d’autre se demande encore pkoi j’écris en français et qui lise pas ce que j’ai écris pour la seule raison que j’écris en français) du moment que toi tu comprends ce que je racontes c’est le principal hihi.

Ben moi je crois fermement à Dieu.

Ben je pense pas que le hasard aurait pu donner lieu à des choses comme la planète terre, l’univers, les hommes, la nature, les animaux. Si tu regardes bien on est très bien fait, tout est règlé à une précision. Si il y avait ne serait-ce que 1% d’eau en moins sur cette terre, le monde serait complètement chamboulé, et puis depuis toujours il y a toujours eu la même quantité d’eau sur terre. Bon jte donne des exemples ptète pas dans un bon ordre et ptète que j’explique pas bien c’est parce que j’écris sur le coup 🙂

Ben regarde pour le ciel par exemple, le ciel est fait de “7 cieux”, ben effectivement la science a confirmé cela car comment dire, on va dire que le ciel est effectivement composé de 7 couches, et chaque couche joue un rôle important pour la vie sur terre, chaque couche filtre les rayons reçu par l’espace et qui sont mortelles pour la vie sur terre, à la fin seule les rayons nécessaire pour la vie sur terre, il y aurait fallu que un seul des rayons dangereux passe pour qu’il n’y ait aucune vie sur terre … c’est beaucoup trop bien réglé, parfaitement réglé même pour que ça soit le hasard qui en ait la cause, il y a bien quelqu’un qui a fait tout ça: Dieu.

En ce qu’il concerne la théorie de l’évolution de Darwin … ben justement je pourrai plus de citer en fait car il faut que je fasse des recherches, mais il est prouvé que sa théorie est complètement fausse et ne tiens pas la route. La seule raison pour laquelle on continue à enseigner cette théorie, c’est parce que c’est un moyen “laïc” d’expliquer l’évolution de l’homme sans faire intervenir la religion dedans, car l’enseignement se veut laïc.

Ben en fait la théorie de Darwin si t’y réfléchis bien elle est trop fausse. La théorie de l’évolution c’est genre que, un lézard sur un arbre, arrêté pas de tomber de l’arbre, et à force de tomber de l’arbre, son corps s’est adapté, et il lui ait venu des ailes … ben si les lézard on l’habitude de se casser la gueule (selon un des exemples de Darwin) pourquoi tous ne sont pas devenus des oiseaux???Genre, c’est complètement impossible sa théorie, puis aussi il y a d’autres exemples qui me viennent pas à l’esprit là mais comme quoi, pour d’autres espèces, ben c’est à force de pas utiliser une caractéristique que la caractéristique en question disparait. C’est aussi pour Darwin la théorie du plus fort, ben dites moi si l’homme descendait du singe, ben pourquoi tous les singes ne sont pas devenus des hommes, parce que à la base les singes agissent tous pareil pourquoi certains seraient devenue des hommes et d’autres non? Ca n’a ni queue ni tête…
Ben regardé par exemple, si dans une même famille, à chaque génération, on coupe une main des gens de cette famille, ben d’après Darwin avec le temps qui passe, cela va s’intégrer à l’intérieur des personnes, et puis personne ne naitra avec cette main, car dès ke une personne né avec sa main ben on lui la coupe … ben non c’est complètement impossible qu’une telle information passe dans son ADN … tiens Darwin ne connaissait pas l’ADN lui, ben avec l’existence de l’ADN justement on prouve que la théorie de darwin c rien, car on ne peut pas modifier l’ADN ainsi, car en coupant le bras d’une personne, ou quand le lezard se cassait la gueule en tombant de l’arbre, ben c’est une chose qui lui arrive à lui et ce n’est pas une information que l’adn de ce lézard contenait, ce qui t’arrive dans la vie n’est pas inscrite dans ton ADN. Ben par exemple c’est pas à force d’apprendre à l’école que les générations futures naissent avec toute les donnée à savoir! parce que selon darwin, tout ce qui nous arrive transforme la race humaine, donc pendant des siècles les hommes ont étudié génération après générations mais c’est pas autant que quand le bébé né il a toutes ses connaissances intégré en lui.

Enfin comment dire, l’ADN ne contient que des informations nécessaire, elles sont là depuis la naissance tu peux pas changer ses information, l’ADN est très complexe, et microscopique et malgrès ça il contient toutes les informations nécessaire qui caractérisent l’individus, l’ADN contient tout. Mais il ne contient pas des données extérieure quoi, tu peux jamais incorporé des données dedans, si t’as eu une copine et kelle a rompu avec toi ça va pas etre inscrit dans ton adn, si tu t cassé la jambe ça va pas s’inscrire dans ton adn. Enfin tu vois ce que j’essaye de dire sur l’ADN là? (dsl jsuis ptète un peu brouillon pour expliquer!)Ben regarde, les mecs se coupent les cheveux court depuis des centaines de génération, c pas pour autant que les bébé garçons vont naitre avec les cheveux court déjà coupé, ben non cette information ne s’encre pas dans l’ADN c pas possible. Les filles maintenant se coupe les cheveux en dégradé, si on croit darwin c que dans quelques générations, les filles vont naitre déjà avec une coupe fashion toute faite avec dégradé et différentes méches de couleurs

Puis ben si l’homme était un descendant du singe, ben c’est pas possible, les informations de son ADN ne sont pas les même que chez celle du singe. Puis par exemple, jsais pas si vous avez appris à l’école, mais c’est encore quand on étudie l’homme et tout (enfin en france en tout cas j’ai appris), ben tu pourras pas combiner une cellule gamète homme et une cellule gamète singe, ce que j’essaye de dire ben jamais un homme peut faire un bébé avec un singe, car les cellules ne sont pas compatibles quoi, ça fera jamais quelque chose! jdis ça parce que darwin dit qu’on descend des singes ben si c’était le cas ça aurait été possible mais non car comment dire les informations de l’ADN ne sont pas les mêmes. Seuls 2 individus d’une même race genre 2 oiseaux, 2 humains, 2 ours peuvent faire un bébé, le reste n’est pas possible ça marche pas( un oiseaux et un lapin … ça donnera rien, enfin jai donné assez d’exemple tu vas capté héhé). Donc ben si on descendait du singe … ça aurait été possible.( J’ai appris ça au lycée, jcrois c’était quand on parlé de l’ADN)

bref scientifiquement, c’est impossible la théorie de darwin, car comme j’ai essayé de vous le montrer ben, on ne peut pas, jamais intégré de nouvelles informations dans l’ADN.

Quand Neil Armstrong et ses compagnons sont aller sur la lune, il a dit je cite ” “Earth is a dark hanging sphere – who hung it?” he meant that God is the one who hung it. Ben si c’était le hasard, ça se peut pas, parce que tout est parfaitement réglé, la terre a sa route, le soleil a sa route, ils ont chacun leur orbitre, leur propre rôle, si c’était le hasard ben tout se serait rentré dedans, tout serait caotique. Ben là non il y a un ordre parfait qui règne dans l’univers. Si c’était le hasard, chaque chose dans l’univers n’aurait pas son propre role, les étoiles ont un role, la terre suit son orbite autour du soleil pendant que le soleil suit sa propre orbite, mars la sienne.

Si tu vois un avion et que on te dit oui l’avion il est conduit tout seul, tu vas me dire que je suis folle, l’avion ne peut pas volé seul, quelqu’un doit le faire voler, le diriger. Ben voilà c’est pareil, la terre ne bouge pas toute seule, il y a Dieu qui s’en occupe. Si l’avion ne peut pas voler tout seul sans que quelqu’un la controle.

Quand toi tu penses que tu rencontres quelqu’un que tu connais par hasard, ben moi je dis non que ce n’est pas le hasard, c’est le destin. Parce que le hasard, ben c’est que rien n’arrive avec une raison si t’y pense bien c’est ça le hasard c’est juste que ça arrive comme ça, ben tant qu’à faire si c’était le hasard t’aurai jamais rencontré quelqu’un que tu connais vu ya tellement de monde sur terre.

Enfin bref jsuis fatigué là j’ai trop écrit, si jtrouve encore des choses à dire jte dirai lol.

Aller bonne lecture hein yashvin, jcrois t’as l’habitude avec mes “textes” comme tu dis!

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